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post #31 of 358 Old 01-03-2013, 08:24 AM
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The bike i built the map with had a slip-on and filter, so it should be pretty close to yours. Though being in Colorado you're quite a bit higher in elevation than down here in the LA area. I would get the Z-Fi, see how the pre-loaded map works, if it doesn't work all that great then go and get the Z-AFM.


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The bike i built the map with had a slip-on and filter, so it should be pretty close to yours. Though being in Colorado you're quite a bit higher in elevation than down here in the LA area. I would get the Z-Fi, see how the pre-loaded map works, if it doesn't work all that great then go and get the Z-AFM.
How would I know if the pre-loaded map doesn't work? Would the bike hesitate? I'm starting to think I should purchase one anyway just because I heard the maps bazzaz have on their web site are developed at sea level. I'm pretty sure I am already running rich. I would be to afraid to make changes to the program. don't know what I'm going. i guess with the z-afm i can ride for 15-20 mins and it will recommend a map to use. I was just hoping to get a way with it so i could get a nice helmet. Oh well
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How would I know if the pre-loaded map doesn't work? Would the bike hesitate? I'm starting to think I should purchase one anyway just because I heard the maps bazzaz have on their web site are developed at sea level. I'm pretty sure I am already running rich. I would be to afraid to make changes to the program. don't know what I'm going. i guess with the z-afm i can ride for 15-20 mins and it will recommend a map to use. I was just hoping to get a way with it so i could get a nice helmet. Oh well
Well we're not exactly at sea level, but 600ft is a bit closer than where you're at. But our bikes do have Barometric Pressure Sensors, so the map we've made should still be pretty close to what you need. But like you're thinking, if anything our map will be on the rich side for high elevation applications. So yes, getting the Z-AFM is the best route to go, but you could also probably get the map dialed in yourself by just leaning the whole thing out until it feels like you got increased throttle response in all areas. If the bike's too rich it may not "hesitate" necessarily, but it won't respond as quickly to throttle input.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
Here's a link to some Kawasaki Service Manuals that I've got hosted for everyone's use.
And please check out my blog for more sage advice and technical ramblings.
Some basics about braking here.
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Well we're not exactly at sea level, but 600ft is a bit closer than where you're at. But our bikes do have Barometric Pressure Sensors, so the map we've made should still be pretty close to what you need. But like you're thinking, if anything our map will be on the rich side for high elevation applications. So yes, getting the Z-AFM is the best route to go, but you could also probably get the map dialed in yourself by just leaning the whole thing out until it feels like you got increased throttle response in all areas. If the bike's too rich it may not "hesitate" necessarily, but it won't respond as quickly to throttle input.
Makes sense, I'm goingt to make sure and purchase the z-afm also. I'm not experienced at all in manually tuning a bike. One of the reasons I want this set up , not counting the addition of a full exhaust system, is for added throttle response. After a lot of reasurch I feel going with bazzaz is going to be the best route.
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If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
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Could you get power to a z-fi by hooking it straight up to the battery terminal? or is this a bad idea?
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Could you get power to a z-fi by hooking it straight up to the battery terminal? or is this a bad idea?
Not sure. I would follow the directions from bazzaz just to make sure you do things right
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Has anyone else called sales about 03/04 models?

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Has anyone else called sales about 03/04 models?
Don't know anything about that but if you go to the bazzaz Web site there is someone you can chat with live.
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dang. Very interested in switching over from PCV to Bazzaz. Buuut I would rather have a professional tune it because I am sure I would just go the wrong way with all the settings. Which makes me nervous with all your talk about alot of people not being very knowledgeable on the Bazzaz system
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Just received my z-fi, z-afm and map switch from bazzaz. I was all excited to start the install when I found out that the z-afm did not come with the exhaust bung for my O2 senser. Im kinda pissed with the amount of money I spent that only missing a 30 dollar part to complete the install. Going to have to wait another week then hopefully I will be able to glote on here about my sweet addition to my baby. Guess I should have completed a little more research before I started purchasing my stuff.
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Coudnt you just go to a parts store and pick up a bung to weld on? Or are the bike o2 sensors a different size than car o2 sensors? $30 for a bung is rediculous when the dealership down the street sells them for $5 lol

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Could you get power to a z-fi by hooking it straight up to the battery terminal? or is this a bad idea?
Bad idea, then your Bazzaz control unit will always be powered on, and will slowly drain your battery. It's not hard to find switched power on Kawis, any Red/Blue wire.

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dang. Very interested in switching over from PCV to Bazzaz. Buuut I would rather have a professional tune it because I am sure I would just go the wrong way with all the settings. Which makes me nervous with all your talk about alot of people not being very knowledgeable on the Bazzaz system
Anyone who can tune with Dynojet's software can easily tune with ours, a lot of tuners are just scared of what they don't know. Tuners in general are some of the most stubborn and self-righteous pricks I've ever dealt with.

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Just received my z-fi, z-afm and map switch from bazzaz. I was all excited to start the install when I found out that the z-afm did not come with the exhaust bung for my O2 senser. Im kinda pissed with the amount of money I spent that only missing a 30 dollar part to complete the install. Going to have to wait another week then hopefully I will be able to glote on here about my sweet addition to my baby. Guess I should have completed a little more research before I started purchasing my stuff.
Not every bike needs a bung, in fact I'd say almost half the bikes we make systems for don't need a bung b/c they already have one of the correct size in their exhaust. Plus there are two types of bungs, Stainless Steel and Titanium, and you can't mix those with the other type of exhaust. For those two reasons we can't automatically include a bung in the Z-AFM kit, b/c we'd have to send two bungs in every kit, and that just wouldn't be anywhere close to cost effective.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
Here's a link to some Kawasaki Service Manuals that I've got hosted for everyone's use.
And please check out my blog for more sage advice and technical ramblings.
Some basics about braking here.
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Ahhhh, that makes perfect sense
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need some clarification here..
If I get just the z-fi, I will have to manually map it. If I get both z-fi and z-afm, the z-afm will suggest maps for me and I just do what it suggests? Is this an accurate way of looking at it?
Apologize for the possible dumb question but I want to clear things up before I drop 600+ bones if I don't absolutely need to.

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