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post #46 of 359 Old 01-29-2013, 03:27 PM
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need some clarification here..
If I get just the z-fi, I will have to manually map it. If I get both z-fi and z-afm, the z-afm will suggest maps for me and I just do what it suggests? Is this an accurate way of looking at it?
Apologize for the possible dumb question but I want to clear things up before I drop 600+ bones if I don't absolutely need to.

I have a custom slip on and a bmc air filter btw
Pretty much, the Z-Fi by its self has no auto mapping abilities; the Z-AFM (when combined with a Z-Fi) will acquire data while you ride, then show you the changes it wants to make to your active fuel map. You can then choose to accept all or select parts of the changes or none at all.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
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Ok. Is it hard to do yourself if you don't know what you are doing?
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Ok. Is it hard to do yourself if you don't know what you are doing?
No it's pretty easy. We've got some instructional vids on our website about mapping; take a look at those and let me know if you have any other questions.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
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Right on man appreciate the quick help. I'll def take a look at that and ask any other questions if they come up
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So im going to buy the zf-I unit for my bike. What kind of maps are offered directly from Bazzaz? I'll have a rs5 and a factory header that I will be cutting the cat out of, kleen air mod and thats really it for engine performace besides an air filter.

If there is a tune that can get It close right off the start I would be happy. I'm am going to try and find a shop in my area that has dealt with and tuned Bazzaz systems before for my custom tune.
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So im going to buy the zf-I unit for my bike. What kind of maps are offered directly from Bazzaz? I'll have a rs5 and a factory header that I will be cutting the cat out of, kleen air mod and thats really it for engine performace besides an air filter.

If there is a tune that can get It close right off the start I would be happy. I'm am going to try and find a shop in my area that has dealt with and tuned Bazzaz systems before for my custom tune.
For the 08 we just have slip-on maps; the one that comes in the control unit was made with an RS5 slip-on I believe, and then I made one for my two-bros slip-on.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
Here's a link to some Kawasaki Service Manuals that I've got hosted for everyone's use.
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Some basics about braking here.
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For the 08 we just have slip-on maps; the one that comes in the control unit was made with an RS5 slip-on I believe, and then I made one for my two-bros slip-on.
How far off do you think the map would be without the CAT and air injection system?
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quick question, is the bazzaz worth it if i dont get a full exhaust? just got a slip-on, new filter, and sprocket change. and im talking about the standard zi-fi w/o TC and quick shift as i am not to keen on either. well maybe the TC.
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quick question, is the bazzaz worth it if i dont get a full exhaust? just got a slip-on, new filter, and sprocket change. and im talking about the standard zi-fi w/o TC and quick shift as i am not to keen on either. well maybe the TC.
I followed eviltwins advice and purchased the z-afm with my z-fi controler. I live at high altitude. So I know if I use a standard map with a slip on from bazzaz it will come from sea Level. i'm excited to get my crap installed and tuned
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How far off do you think the map would be without the CAT and air injection system?
I have my kleen air system blocked off too, that doesn't effect fueling. My map will be a little leaner than you'll want once the cat is removed. Can't say how much though, I've never tuned one of our bikes with a gutted header.

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quick question, is the bazzaz worth it if i dont get a full exhaust? just got a slip-on, new filter, and sprocket change. and im talking about the standard zi-fi w/o TC and quick shift as i am not to keen on either. well maybe the TC.
The short answer is yes, it is worth it. The long answer is to read the article about fuel controllers linked in my sig.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
Here's a link to some Kawasaki Service Manuals that I've got hosted for everyone's use.
And please check out my blog for more sage advice and technical ramblings.
Some basics about braking here.
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Thanks for all your help! After going through everything and loading the new driver I still couldn't get connected to the ZFi. I was talking with my brother about my issue and he said to try another usb cable. I told him that I have never in my life had a bad USB cable. Well sure enough, I replaced the usb cable and I have no issues connected to the ZFi unit. All that just from a bad cable. Any way next week I'm hoping the weather will clear up so I can mess with the auto tuner. Thanks again for all your help and I'm sure I will taco soon.
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You won't be disappointed.
Well I have finally been able to tune my bike this weekend and I am not disappointed. I also feel like I could be making changes to my fuel map all week of I wanted to. I have noticed a huge difference in both power and throttle responce. Cant wait to really start riding this summer
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I have a yoshi rs4 slip on with a pine box link pipe and mjs headers. Virtually a full system now for a 2009zx6r. Also have BMC race filter as well.

Once i get the zf-i is it just plug and play? is their a proper map i can download that can take advantage of this? I live in maryland as well

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I have a yoshi rs4 slip on with a pine box link pipe and mjs headers. Virtually a full system now for a 2009zx6r. Also have BMC race filter as well.

Once i get the zf-i is it just plug and play? is their a proper map i can download that can take advantage of this? I live in maryland as well
yes all the bazzaz systems are direct plug and play...they have a map preinstalled for your ride if u get it from them... if you get it from else where u will need to DL a base map from Bazzaz.net.....

the map IS NOT 100% ACCURATE!!!! you will still need to get a proper tune done by a dyno tech...

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Yeah like 09ZX-6R said, everything is plug and play, but the map that comes on the unit was made for a slip-on exhaust with stock filter. So with your setup I'd recommend getting a custom tune done, as we do not have any maps for full systems, since they're all a bit different from each other.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
Here's a link to some Kawasaki Service Manuals that I've got hosted for everyone's use.
And please check out my blog for more sage advice and technical ramblings.
Some basics about braking here.
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