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post #61 of 359 Old 04-09-2013, 03:05 AM
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I just got mine installed and have all the stock numbers in there. Took it out for one ride and the quickshifter really bangs into gear and even getting the front end come up a little, not a wheelie, just a surge forward kind of thing.

Just to save me making changes, riding, making more changes riding, kind of randomly, should I be going up or down in the number of MS and what is a good unit to change, 5 at a time, or more?
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Might sound dumb, but how do you flash new maps? Does the ZF-i have to be plugged into the harness or can you just plug the usb into itand say do it from a desk top computer? I flash a lot if vehicle ECUs at work just never messed with bikes.

Also the instructions that came with it said to mount it in the tail, but the online ones say front fairing. I know it will be front fairing, and what would you recommend for use other than the scotchlok? My kit only came with one and i have a problem using those.
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I just got mine installed and have all the stock numbers in there. Took it out for one ride and the quickshifter really bangs into gear and even getting the front end come up a little, not a wheelie, just a surge forward kind of thing.

Just to save me making changes, riding, making more changes riding, kind of randomly, should I be going up or down in the number of MS and what is a good unit to change, 5 at a time, or more?
If it's jerking too much you'll want to decrease the kill times. I usually move in 5ms increments, but i it's doing it pretty bad then you could start with a decrease of 10ms.


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Might sound dumb, but how do you flash new maps? Does the ZF-i have to be plugged into the harness or can you just plug the usb into itand say do it from a desk top computer? I flash a lot if vehicle ECUs at work just never messed with bikes.

Also the instructions that came with it said to mount it in the tail, but the online ones say front fairing. I know it will be front fairing, and what would you recommend for use other than the scotchlok? My kit only came with one and i have a problem using those.
It's not really like "flashing", more like a live interface. All you do to modify anything in the control unit is plug the USB cable into the control unit and youcomputer, then open up the Z-Fi mapper software. That allows you to edit the fuel map, load a new map in, and adjust other parameters.

For the P models you'll definitely want to mount it in the front. We designed it to go on the right side, but I removed my charcoal canister and place the control unit on the left where that used to be. Had to extend the power lead, but no big deal. I understand not wanting to use a scotch lok, but an alternate method will have to be up to your discretion. Personally I'm pretty good at soldering stuff in, and if done correctly that is the best way to go.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
Here's a link to some Kawasaki Service Manuals that I've got hosted for everyone's use.
And please check out my blog for more sage advice and technical ramblings.
Some basics about braking here.
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post #64 of 359 Old 04-22-2013, 08:56 AM
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As for the 2013 636, I am obviously trying to get this in as soon as possible so I can make a system for it.

Any updates on the BazzaZ ZFI-QS unit for the 2013 ZX636's?
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Any updates on the BazzaZ ZFI-QS unit for the 2013 ZX636's?
Been done for a while now.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
Here's a link to some Kawasaki Service Manuals that I've got hosted for everyone's use.
And please check out my blog for more sage advice and technical ramblings.
Some basics about braking here.
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I like the new software. :thumbsup:

question: w/ the QS, i'm having a tough time going from 1st to 2nd gear (I have one area I need to drop to first gear, but I miss the shift Everytime) I adjusted the time, but still had no luck. any tips? 2nd to 3rd was aggressive as well. ( I'm blaming the need of an oil change, so hope that's the fix)

Great Product. Easy to use. Fairly simple install.
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I like the new software. :thumbsup:

question: w/ the QS, i'm having a tough time going from 1st to 2nd gear (I have one area I need to drop to first gear, but I miss the shift Everytime) I adjusted the time, but still had no luck. any tips? 2nd to 3rd was aggressive as well. ( I'm blaming the need of an oil change, so hope that's the fix)

Great Product. Easy to use. Fairly simple install.
increase or decrease the delay time...go in 5ms increments till it works properly...

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I like the new software. :thumbsup:

question: w/ the QS, i'm having a tough time going from 1st to 2nd gear (I have one area I need to drop to first gear, but I miss the shift Everytime) I adjusted the time, but still had no luck. any tips? 2nd to 3rd was aggressive as well. ( I'm blaming the need of an oil change, so hope that's the fix)

Great Product. Easy to use. Fairly simple install.
If it's not completing the shift, that usually means your kill time isn't long enough, or your not pressing firmly enough on the shift lever. I hit N every once in while b/c I get lazy and just tap the shift lever for the 1st-2nd shift.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
Here's a link to some Kawasaki Service Manuals that I've got hosted for everyone's use.
And please check out my blog for more sage advice and technical ramblings.
Some basics about braking here.
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Bazzazz QS binding from 5th-6th...

EvilTwin,

I was recently on my first trackday on an 07 ZX6 with Bazzazz ZAFM and QS.

No issues with the QS b/w 2nd-5th. When on the front straight from 5th to 6th the QS didn't seem to want to work so I was forced to clutch into gear. Is this a timing issue with the system in your opinion?
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EvilTwin,

I was recently on my first trackday on an 07 ZX6 with Bazzazz ZAFM and QS.

No issues with the QS b/w 2nd-5th. When on the front straight from 5th to 6th the QS didn't seem to want to work so I was forced to clutch into gear. Is this a timing issue with the system in your opinion?
Well it could either be that your kill time for that shift is set way too low, or that the gears aren't reading correctly in the Bazzaz software and when it's in 5th the software thinks it's in 6th, which would cause it to ignore any attempt on your part to use the qs. Put it up on the rear stand and verify the gear readout in the software, and let me know what you find.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
Here's a link to some Kawasaki Service Manuals that I've got hosted for everyone's use.
And please check out my blog for more sage advice and technical ramblings.
Some basics about braking here.
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Figured I would throw this out there for the lazy people like me haha. I'm making myself a quick tune cable for my bazzaz. Bought a USB extension ( female one end and male the other) and a tooth brush case the type that clips over the top. Put my bazzaz USB cable into the bazzaz and left it there. Ran the cable to under the rear seat and put the brush protector over the end of the cable. Electrical tapped the bottom of the case so it doesn't side around on the cable and then tape over any vent holes. Figure this would keep it basically out if any elements that could find their way under my rear cowl and it beats taking off the tank fairings and seat every time I wanna adjust the zfam.

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That's way fancier than how I did it on mine. I just velcroed the USB end of my cable to the left side of my front fairing stay. When I need to connect I just pull it off; the unit on my 07 is in the front left side faring though, not under the seat. On my track bike the unit is located under the tank, so I ran the USB cable out of the old trunk release key hole and velcroed it to the subframe.


If you want the breakdown on fuel management systems, take some time to read this thread.
For a walk through on pulling FI Codes, check out this thread.
Questions about Flashed ECUs vs. Fuel Controllers? Try this one.
Got a Z-Fi TC System? Read This to get an idea of how it works.
Here's a link to some Kawasaki Service Manuals that I've got hosted for everyone's use.
And please check out my blog for more sage advice and technical ramblings.
Some basics about braking here.
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I wanted to keep it clean lol. I live in Nebraska. Dirt corn dust Debris. You name it we have it.

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debadged, speigler ss black and red lines, red driven spools, solo cowl, double h pads front and back,fp v stacks, bmc filter, gutted air box, full leo system, revalved ohlins damper,db smoked windscreen,hot bodies undertail kit, bazzaz zfi & zfam, iridium spark plugs,sick innovations street cage,de mirrored,painted calipers,fp evo shift star,driven block off plates and kleen air mod, bst carbon fiber wheels with titanium sprocket nuts supersprox -1/stock stealth sprockets in black for bst ad red for stock with vortex rv3 triglide chain.

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I just installed the GRAVES slip on my 13' 636. I am very interested in having a proper tune using Bazzaz. Any recommendations on a professional tuner in southern California? Preferably an authorized Bazzaz fuel scientist ;p

I am in Palm Springs area but willing to go anywhere reasonable including Nevada or Arizona.

I just don't feel that the bike is running optimally even though the Graves is just a slip on. To install the Graves I had to remove the soundbox, cat, servo... therefor I want a tune that makes the bike run optimally now simply having headers into the Graves pipe.

I am also willing to get the Graves full system if it is known to truly be necessary.

Any info would be great and appreciated! Feel free to chime in EvilTwin!

Thanks again guys!
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post #75 of 359 Old 06-12-2013, 05:21 PM
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Been done for a while now.
so for the 2013 636 you have to get the Z-Fi-TC version just to get the quick shifter or do they have the Z-Fi-QS still, cuz I dont see it on the Bazzaz site anywhere for the new 636's.

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