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post #31 of 95 Old 04-12-2016, 10:21 AM
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i wasnt sure about an alternative. if they are pressed or something would it be possible to make a MSM logo cut out to press into the lever? it wouldnt pop but its an option.

alternatively would it be possible to have the MSM logo be a raised portion?

i have no idea about costs, im just throwing ideas out that may or may not be any good or even help with the costs lol.

and personally i planned to buy levers from you regardless, so with or without grip id probably still pick up a pair
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So let me ask you all this:

The grip area seems to be a concern for many of you. Would you still consider purchasing these without it?

There is a significant cost associated with doing that so I may be able to offer these without that grip area for a little bit less money.
Yes.

But my vote shouldn't count for much since like I said before, I just bought a pair of used CRG short levers that I haven't even put on yet. So unless it turns out that I don't like the short levers, I doubt I'll be buying a new set any time soon. But if it happens, I would go with yours.

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Yes I would purchase without or with the grip. I am not picky.
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definitely will be in the running when I buy levers. Cant wait to see the final product

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My guess is maybe the grip strip will fade after long use? How about machining some mesh grooves along that part instead? Not sure how that will affect the structural integrity of the lever in case of a drop/crash although it can fold up.

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Machining knurls on a small non-cylindrical surface like that are of a brake/clutch lever would be a PITA.

Slo, how did you do the grippy surface on those levers? Is that blasted or some other process? Just curious, as I'm a bit of a machining enthusiast more or less, though still learning.
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Machining knurls on a small non-cylindrical surface like that are of a brake/clutch lever would be a PITA.

Slo, how did you do the grippy surface on those levers? Is that blasted or some other process? Just curious, as I'm a bit of a machining enthusiast more or less, though still learning.
Knurling would not be easily doable on these levers, plus my concern is that it will be too grippy anyway.

I am trying multiple methods out to see which one gets me the best results. Blasting with different media and acid etching seem to be the top two contenders at the moment.

I have ridden with a couple different textures so far and am finding that I really like most of them. The more aggressive ones I am not happy with so I am narrowing down the process as I go.
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Let me put it this way, I've never considered spending that much on levers...until now!!!
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So let me ask you all this:

The grip area seems to be a concern for many of you. Would you still consider purchasing these without it?

There is a significant cost associated with doing that so I may be able to offer these without that grip area for a little bit less money.

For what it's worth;

Personally I do not like the "grippy" area. So I would want them without that and absolutely would not buy any lever that had any "grippy" area regardless if it was knurling or some stick on substance

But I also would be far more prone to buy your existing "basic" levers rather than these as I am more about function and simplicity than flash and vulnerability.
I do not need adjustability- I slam them all the way out and never move them again (big hands
I do not need folding- to me it simply creates a weak point at that hinge to break........and I have seen dozens break right there. I would rather have the machined "thin" break away area a couple inches in from the end for it to snap off at if it gets whacked, and you still have "shorties" to get you on your way
Colors, of course people like colors on the levers, but I am not opposed to just the colored hardware with black levers. While subtle is not my strong suit, on the bike subtle looks awesome
Long or short, Long of course (only small handed people want something short, because they are used to that small grip....damn pin dicks) You can two finger brake with any lever!

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For what it's worth;

I do not need adjustability- I slam them all the way out and never move them again (big hands

Long or short, Long of course (only small handed people want something short, because they are used to that small grip....damn pin dicks) You can two finger brake with any lever!
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Awesome!

As for the grip area; I REALLY like the idea of it but I think its one of those subjective things where its up to the rider if its for them or not. I personally hate it when the lever gets slippery, very annoying. I think if you can find the right material that offers grip but doesn't wear down gloves etc you will be set! The grip area is one of the several things I really like about these. Again just my personal view on it.
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Slo, do you happen to sell individual levers or only sets?basically I need an sv650 clutch lever. I would buy a set but I don't have an sv650 master cylinder.

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Slo, do you happen to sell individual levers or only sets?basically I need an sv650 clutch lever. I would buy a set but I don't have an sv650 master cylinder.
Yes, I sell individual levers. The clutch lever for the SV is here:
https://madscientistmoto.com/product/clutch-lever-s650/

Alternatively, if you wanted a brake lever for a different bike you can order that individually as well. I sell lots of SV650 Clutch/GSXR Brake sets.
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