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post #46 of 95 Old 05-05-2016, 02:22 PM
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1) Im looking for shorties to replace my cheap ones, so the option of only long is a bit of a bummer for me.

2) Yes, lack of colors would dissuade me, I need to have mmy green levers with black adjustment switches. :-)

Really hope you'll offer these options in the future, so far everything you listed looks great. Seems like a solid product and Im going to keep an eye out for any more info on them. Best of luck.
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1) Im looking for shorties to replace my cheap ones, so the option of only long is a bit of a bummer for me.

2) Yes, lack of colors would dissuade me, I need to have mmy green levers with black adjustment switches. :-)

Really hope you'll offer these options in the future, so far everything you listed looks great. Seems like a solid product and Im going to keep an eye out for any more info on them. Best of luck.
Thank you for your feedback =) I really appreciate it.

Colors and different lengths would definitely be coming, I am just trying to figure out what to make first because I simply cant afford to make everything all at once.
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Just ordered a couple clutch levers from u. I'll grab a couple brake levers too when I can remember which master cylinder is on my bike

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Just ordered a set of your basic, long levers. Will probably get them next weekend. Excited to see how well the gold levers will match my gold forks on my 2014. I think for me, the price point on the basic levers is just right. As rivers said, I don't feel the need for shorty levers, as I have big hands and the regular levers seem appropriate. I don't feel the need to spend $180 on the premium levers, since to me the value added isn't there. I like the concept though, and would be curious to see how well they hold up in a crash.

Especially being from Canada, and with the dollar being lower here (even in good times, a healthy CAD is approx. 0.85-0.9 USD), plus additional shipping costs, I think many Canadian buyers would find much more value in the basic levers.
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Thank you for your feedback =) I really appreciate it.

Colors and different lengths would definitely be coming, I am just trying to figure out what to make first because I simply cant afford to make everything all at once.
*** I don't know a thing about the market or business of selling levers however, if I were in your shoes I would start with black long levers with maybe color options for the adjuster lever.

Can't go wrong with black and it should keep initial production costs down.

BTW I love these levers I remember asking you about them last year and tried to hold off from buying some but I couldn't wait any longer and I bought a set of your normal ones.

Personally, I absolutely love the levers, they look badass from the titanium bits to the logo however, i couldn't justify spending that amount of money on levers when you already sell a great set for a fraction of the cost with flawless functionality. Now if I were racing or money wasn't a factor then yeah different story. However that is just me and there are many others that solely ride street and love to buy parts for the bling factor so I believe these will sell either way.
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Thanks again for the feedback, all, and especially for the business. Spider and BBoy, your levers have already shipped =).

Spider, if you need a hand identifying which MC is on there let me know.

Also, just so we are clear, my standard levers will not be going away (although the price will be going up a bit shortly). These will be in addition to my regular offerings.
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glad I finally pulled the trigger before the price went up
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I know it's a cbr. I can ask my buddy I bought it from. It has a crg lever on it now but it's not a short lever. So I'd like to grab a shorty and use this for backup. I should've just waited a day to find out and save on shipping but I'm impatient lol


Anyway, thanks!

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Finally reviving this thread. Solidworks modeling is complete and it is off to a shop for final QC testing/prototyping! Once I am sure that everything works/looks as it should, it is off to full production.

Anodizing will be black for the initial run but have already discussed future runs in the same color range as my current levers.

All that remains is to take the prototype to a local place that does laser etching (I love being able to keep my money locally) and get a jig made up to do the laser markings for the adjuster numbers and MSM branding.

I really like the idea of having this be the 'most customizable lever on the market' and have been tossing around the following ideas as options. I would love to hear your feedback.

1) choice between natural color or black titanium hardware
2) not only choose lever color but be able to choose different colors for the top and bottom part of the lever so as an example you could theoretically have a black top, gold lever, and green adjuster.
3) optional 'grip strip' which at this point would likely be done after anodizing so it would be natural color like in my original pictures.
4) mix/match long or short levers (like I do now on my regular levers)
5) custom laser engraving on the lever face. Not sure how this would work out with the optional grip strip, I may have to make them mutually exclusive. This may not be available right away but my goal is to purchase my own laser engraving machine and do this work in-house...just as soon as I have 20k burning a hole in my companies pocket =). I am still hoping that I can find a used/reconditioned machine for half.

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Looking great! I like all of the ideas you have so far, my biggest issue is how anodizing will eventually fade in sunlight. Since you are looking to create the most customizable option out there, why not offer powdercoated levers as an option?

It shouldnt cost more than $25 a set and to me, that is worth it considering I can get whatever color I want and in a couple years the lever will look the same as it did day 1.
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Looking great! I like all of the ideas you have so far, my biggest issue is how anodizing will eventually fade in sunlight. Since you are looking to create the most customizable option out there, why not offer powdercoated levers as an option?

It shouldnt cost more than $25 a set and to me, that is worth it considering I can get whatever color I want and in a couple years the lever will look the same as it did day 1.
It is definitely something I am considering. The issue comes with the fact that anodizing is a lot thinner than powder coating which matters when mating parts together.

Anodizing = .5-2 mils
PC = 6-10 mils

Still, I will absolutely be messing around with it to see what I can come up with.
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I'll be happy to test the new model out for you SLO! You know get your company out there on the west side of the good ol USA
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Powder coated levers would look great.
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1) choice between natural color or black titanium hardware

Yes to both! Subjective as all hell but both are great in my eyes.


2) not only choose lever color but be able to choose different colors for the top and bottom part of the lever so as an example you could theoretically have a black top, gold lever, and green adjuster.

Options are always nice. I've always been a sucker for flat black/ gun metal with red and green accents.

3) optional 'grip strip' which at this point would likely be done after anodizing so it would be natural color like in my original pictures.

I think you made the right decision with the grip strip being optional, especially with the amount of people that voiced their concern when thread was started. I personally will be picking up a set with the strip

4) mix/match long or short levers (like I do now on my regular levers)

Great! Another great idea in my eyes. I tend to like long break levers but short clutch levers.

5) custom laser engraving on the lever face. Not sure how this would work out with the optional grip strip, I may have to make them mutually exclusive.

Not sure what would be engraved. I'm fine being a slogan whore with a MSM engrave. Maybe just Mad Scientist or something like that.

Overall its great to see this moving along. I was just thinking last week what the status of these were. Looking forward to picking up a set bud!
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