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post #61 of 95 Old 08-17-2016, 11:45 AM
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1) choice between natural color or black titanium hardware

Yes to both! Subjective as all hell but both are great in my eyes.


2) not only choose lever color but be able to choose different colors for the top and bottom part of the lever so as an example you could theoretically have a black top, gold lever, and green adjuster.

Options are always nice. I've always been a sucker for flat black/ gun metal with red and green accents.

3) optional 'grip strip' which at this point would likely be done after anodizing so it would be natural color like in my original pictures.

I think you made the right decision with the grip strip being optional, especially with the amount of people that voiced their concern when thread was started. I personally will be picking up a set with the strip

4) mix/match long or short levers (like I do now on my regular levers)

Great! Another great idea in my eyes. I tend to like long break levers but short clutch levers.

5) custom laser engraving on the lever face. Not sure how this would work out with the optional grip strip, I may have to make them mutually exclusive.

Not sure what would be engraved. I'm fine being a slogan whore with a MSM engrave. Maybe just Mad Scientist or something like that.

Overall its great to see this moving along. I was just thinking last week what the status of these were. Looking forward to picking up a set bud!
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For the optional engraving, who knows. Some people want their own name, race number, or slogan on their levers.

For instance, Jorge Lorenzo has "hammer" and "butter" on his clutch and brake levers. Martillo and mantequilla.

Personally I would put something like "Yut uggggh" on the clutch and "only use after seeing God" on the brake
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Id be interested in a set. Currently rolling on ASV levers. But to be honest not a fan of the folding levers? Never had them so I am not really sure how they work bu i just dont want a control to be wiggly as I compress it

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Id be interested in a set. Currently rolling on ASV levers. But to be honest not a fan of the folding levers? Never had them so I am not really sure how they work bu i just dont want a control to be wiggly as I compress it
They're not wiggly (if made correctly of course). Generally it takes a lot of force to fold the levers around the hinge/pivot point. The ones I've seen it's damn near impossible to do it by hand, but in a crash there is enough force if it touches the ground.

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They're not wiggly (if made correctly of course). Generally it takes a lot of force to fold the levers around the hinge/pivot point. The ones I've seen it's damn near impossible to do it by hand, but in a crash there is enough force if it touches the ground.
So similiar to the folding mirrors then?

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Id be interested in a set. Currently rolling on ASV levers. But to be honest not a fan of the folding levers? Never had them so I am not really sure how they work bu i just dont want a control to be wiggly as I compress it
I have been running my first gen prototypes on the track for about a year now, and I am extremely particular about how things work and feel on my bike. Trust me, there is no wiggle at all when riding.

The very nature of the design puts the lever into a solid position when being pulled. Tolerances are so tight, you will not feel a difference between this and a solid lever when using the control.

The only time the folding part comes into play is when pushed with a non-linear motion, in this case upwards. The lever will fold up preventing damage and keeping the lever functional.

For racers/track day riders this can make the difference between finishing your race or keeping you for the rest of your track day. For street riders, this means picking the bike back up and continuing rather than making that call to someone with a trailer to come pick you up.

Worst case scenario I still offer solid levers if the folding ones are not for you.
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gotta say I'm after a set of these!

contacted you about postage to the great UK last week, currently working out the import tax side haha.
but once Xmas is out the way I can see me placing an order as these would be first choice in levers even with the extra postage costs they are just that good value.

long levers are the way to go for sure, black is an easy choice goes with anything (but some people like the silver and gold finishes) and the colours available for the fixtures gives the option for personalisation.
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Thanks Rab! I am still working on this, albeit slowly. I have exhausted nearly every option to having these made in the USA. It is simply too expensive to have them made here so I have recently contacted a machine shop overseas that I have had great results with in the past to see if it is something that they would be able to do.
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i done a track day last year ,i had a titax shorty,i low sided and snapped the buga clean off,wasn't pissed about my fairing damaged,i was more pissed about my £90 lever on the track,i purchased some folding levers on ebay ,not used them yet as winter jobs on the go but my type i bought long folding type adjustable ,so having a folding type does seem a good option as it could also snap your brembo m/c as well on impact

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i done a track day last year ,i had a titax shorty,i low sided and snapped the buga clean off,wasn't pissed about my fairing damaged,i was more pissed about my £90 lever on the track,i purchased some folding levers on ebay ,not used them yet as winter jobs on the go but my type i bought long folding type adjustable ,so having a folding type does seem a good option as it could also snap your brembo m/c as well on impact
Indeed! Folding long levers would always be your best bet.
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Hey man have you started making these to sell yet? Also, are you able to match the green to the Kawasaki green on the 09? The pair of pazzo's I have now are too dark and stand out


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as a suggestion, my levers I got last fall have an adjustment in the bar length, I thought it was a good idea to solve the long vs short debate and save in manufacture costs not having to have two separate lines.
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Hey man have you started making these to sell yet? Also, are you able to match the green to the Kawasaki green on the 09? The pair of pazzo's I have now are too dark and stand out


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Not sure how I missed this. Sorry! This has been on the back burner for a bit. I will make it a priority to try to secure a machine shop to make these for me. Stay tuned.

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as a suggestion, my levers I got last fall have an adjustment in the bar length, I thought it was a good idea to solve the long vs short debate and save in manufacture costs not having to have two separate lines.
I appreciate the thought Dark but I am pretty against the sliding lever design. I have no issue with putting both a long and short on the market although this project has been dormant for far too long.
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I need a shorty clutch lever in Orange and have been holding out for these haha. No idea what I'm going to do about the brembo lever yet.
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Not sure how I missed this. Sorry! This has been on the back burner for a bit. I will make it a priority to try to secure a machine shop to make these for me. Stay tuned.



I appreciate the thought Dark but I am pretty against the sliding lever design. I have no issue with putting both a long and short on the market although this project has been dormant for far too long.
No worries man! If it would be easier to do a black lever with a green adjuster, could you do that once you're good to go?
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