1) I understand why you would start with long levers but I'm definitely in the two finger club and I have been one of those poor souls that have fell victim to the vulnerability of them in a crash. That being said the fact you are offering repair parts I would still probably pick up a long pair.
2) Color. I was going to ask about that. I know we are Kawi owners but I really do try to stay away from the Monster Green hardware. Color wouldn't deter me but it is nice to have options. typically I go for murder black and if there are color accents I go for red. Just me though. I wouldn't let color stop a quality product from being purchased. I think youre on the right track as far as the black with color accents.
3) I'm sure this isn't an issue in the slightest but is there any kind of compatibility issues with say Woodcraft Hand Guards? Also I would be weary, which you stated you are, about making that grip area too abrasive or catchy. I like the idea of non slip for rain etc but not to the point where I feel like Im gripping a hand full of non-skid.
4) I personally think 180 is fine as long as there is a X day return policy on them with out a restocking fee at least until you have a good amount of rider reviews. You would have to work out the conditions of it as far as install etc etc. Cant be too forgiving or too harsh with those kind of things.
5) Rather new to the forum here but been riding for years now. From what I have seen I trust your brand and would gladly buy from you. Seems like you make products for riders as a rider yourself. Very "Woodcraftish" haha. When I buy stuff I tend to read a ton of reviews which leads to the other brands you listed. Honestly just from reading the features section had me sold on these.
6) I think when you go to start selling these that a detailed video of the product would do wonders. Really sit down and go through the product and all the features. Get it circulated and out there and hopefully it catches.
One other concern would be the grip area. What is it made of? How is it attached to the lever? Adhesive? How long before it peels off if it even does? That would also be an area of concern or needed knowledge before making the purchase. Hope that helps. Just my 2 cents. Worth about 1.
No issues with Woodcraft lever guards. I am actually running these right now with them and no problems.
See below for discussion on the texture of the grip area. I will be finding a delicate balance of grip vs being able to move your hands. Think techspec not stompgrip =)
I will ALWAYS "do the right thing" when it comes to my customers which includes things like a return policy, replacement parts, warranty, etc. My business plan is pretty simple: "Treat people like they are your best friend and they will come back"
Fantastic idea on the review video. I will be doing something like that for sure and I will also be trying to get reviews on webbikeworld, etc. IF this pans out, I would love to get Brian at STG to carry them and do a review. He has been a huge supporter of mine throughout my entire racing career so I would hope that he may be interested in these as a product.
The grip area is actually textured metal and not any kind of stick on adhesive. The lever itself is textured and then anodized. This makes sure that there are not any issues with peeling, etc.
Long is ideal. They're more versatile, and if you're only doing 1-2 finger operation, you can do it on the long ones fine.
The color choices seem reasonable.
I would say that I'd still go for the base levers, personally. I don't need the folding feature or the texture, so the cheaper ones do the job well for me, and if I'd need to replace them three times before the folding part started saving me any money.
Just to be clear, these will be in addition to my current levers that I am selling, not as a replacement.
Long or Short lever? - Long
Missing features? -They look amazing. Features and the thought that has gone into them is top notch.
Given the list of features and the product in general, would you buy these at $180?
Absolutely, i would love to rock them in Canada for you. But i would need them for a CBR600 as well
I will post them up in all the groups i am a member of up north.
Would you choose these levers over any other brand? Yes,support a racer, cost effective and great design
General comments? - Would you be able to buy crash parts for them or would you have to get a whole assembly?
I am not sure about the textured part. I haven't seen that before. Could be good, could be not so good. Perhaps a standard version may be an option? My hands sweat like crazy, i go through gloves at least once a year and adding more friction may increase the intervals i would have to change. But who knows.
Compatible with brembo MC i am guessing as well?
Crash parts will be available for sure and I will have them for pretty much all modern sportbikes so the CBR would not be an issue.
The texture part is absolutely new and it is something that I am still playing with. It will be subtle and not aggressive. I am spending quite a bit of time trying to find just the right level of grip with them.
I can absolutely offer them as with or without that grip area though. Maybe I will offer it as an option and see what people prefer...
I can have these fit any of the newer RCS style Brembo masters but not the older ones.
1. For me I like a long clutch and a short brake but if I cant have it that way then long for me.
2. Black levers with adjusters to be different colors.
Black with green adjuster looks awesome.
3. Nothing missing to me love the grippy part but not a deal breaker if you choose not tp go that route. Just make sure to keep the folding levers.
4. $180 is perfect price for both folding levers. I would buy them.
5. I like to buy things from the little guy to help out his or her business. Small business to me go out of there way to make sure you are happy.
6. Love everything about them. Sign me up. I want a pair. Here take my money. What other cool stuff you got coming down the pipeline for us?
Haha, I really appreciate your enthusiasm! All my cool stuff is on my website Mad Scientist Moto | Performance Parts, Accessories, and Innovations for street and track
I think the coolest thing that I have right now is my Gyrocam but the titanium stuff still gets me hot and bothered :-p