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Ladies..........Gents............
What say you?

im currently a beginner, so 80kmh is the fastest ive been.........
if and when I intend on going faster, I will start slow, to warm up tyres........

so my question is this

what are the thoughts on me buying a set of track tires for now??

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Track tires need heat to have traction. They are very poor street tires as a result. Too hard at 'normal' street temps to ever become sticky. slippery and unpredictable.

A lack of riding experience and putting tires on the bike that will feel like they are greased..... that does not end well.

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Use street tires that are trackday tires hybrids like the Dunlop Q3, Bridgestone RS10, Pirelli supercorsas sp v2, or Michelin supersport Evo. Those will be plenty of sticky but useful for street!
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Ladies..........Gents............
What say you?

im currently a beginner, so 80kmh is the fastest ive been.........
if and when I intend on going faster, I will start slow, to warm up tyres........

so my question is this

what are the thoughts on me buying a set of track tires for now??
You're never going to push a street tire hard enough to keep heat in them on the track at this point. If you are asking about using them on the street... that's just plain dumb.

To give you an idea... I'm a very fast advanced group track rider. I am typically one of the faster guys at my track days and all last year I ran Q3's. Granted, I was pushing them to their ultimate limit, which is actually really damn high. Until you're feeling uncomfortable pushing a street tire on the track I suggest sticking with street tires. They are going to get heat in them quicker and last you longer. They're also significantly less expensive.

My last track day of the season MotoAmerica Superstock 1000 champion, Josh Herrin, was sticking behind me for three or so laps because I was pacing so well. I was on a set of tires I'd used at 3 previous track days.

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You're never going to push a street tire hard enough to keep heat in them on the track at this point. If you are asking about using them on the street... that's just plain dumb.

To give you an idea... I'm a very fast advanced group track rider. I am typically one of the faster guys at my track days and all last year I ran Q3's. Granted, I was pushing them to their ultimate limit, which is actually really damn high. Until you're feeling uncomfortable pushing a street tire on the track I suggest sticking with street tires. They are going to get heat in them quicker and last you longer. They're also significantly less expensive.

My last track day of the season MotoAmerica Superstock 1000 champion, Josh Herrin, was sticking behind me for three or so laps because I was pacing so well. I was on a set of tires I'd used at 3 previous track days.

Don't go to slicks until your pace is much higher.
He is fast listen to him. I've been on the track with him lol
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Another tire thread

Seeing as op is pretty new to motorcycling, i don't think hes referring to slicks. I think he's trying to make the comparison between a very grippy hypersport tire vs a less grippier tire, such as a ST tire.

OP will be fine on a set of shinkos and should focus more on proper riding technique vs trying to achieve maximum grip and lean angle....especially on the streets...basically it'll be wasted rubber.. i mean, you wouldn't wear a Trojan unless you're actually ready to pound some punany, would you?
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Get some Q3s and you'll be set.
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I started on conti attacks there awesome for beginner road tyre with track bias to warm quickly for good grip.


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i do the odd track day ,i had a low side i was using bt016 bridgestone so im now looking to change tyres that will be ok for both like the avon 3d,s in my price range ,looking at sc but they are a bit pricey for me

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Use street tires that are trackday tires hybrids like the Dunlop Q3, Bridgestone RS10, Pirelli supercorsas sp v2, or Michelin supersport Evo. Those will be plenty of sticky but useful for street!
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i do the odd track day ,i had a low side i was using bt016 bridgestone so im now looking to change tyres that will be ok for both like the avon 3d,s in my price range ,looking at sc but they are a bit pricey for me
Look at my previous post great potion of tires there!

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