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Old 04-19-2009, 03:31 PM   #1
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cam chain tensioner for a 04 kawi 636

hey guys do anybody no how to adjust the stock cam chain tensioner or where to buy a aftermarket one at, what do you guys suggest & what will work the best, bike is approaching 20k & feel the need to replace it or adjust it if i can, all help will be appreciated
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Old 04-19-2009, 03:35 PM   #2
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No idea how to adjust. For aftermarket I'd recommend the genuine Kawasaki one (Can get via eBay as it's now a discontinued part, I personally couldn't get it from my dealership) or the APE tensioner which you should be able to get from any accessories store or eBay. I've heard the APE have a problem not sealing properly so I was going to go with the Kawasaki one (which also looks better). They're much the same price.
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Old 04-19-2009, 06:57 PM   #3
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do anybody no if will take care of the famous tick or rattle that the kawi engines are known for if i go with ape manual cct
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Old 04-20-2009, 04:18 AM   #4
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You'll need to download a manual for the procedures. Manualz.info is gone.Try Pdftown.com.

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Old 04-20-2009, 11:35 AM   #5
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theres no way to adjust the ctc on your bike as its fitted with the automatic adjusting type,you can fit one from a g1/g2 model which are supposed to be stronger,also your other route is fitting an aftermarket manual adjusting one,ive done this in the past and still had the" kawa tick",one way to try and move your ctc onto its next notch is put your bike into a high gear without the engine running and push it backwards using the resistance from your engine to move the ctc on!
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im just going to replace it with a manual one & will be doing the installtion myself
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Old 04-22-2009, 09:22 AM   #7
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Will be interested to hear how you get on after fitting a new cct.....I'm getting a fair bit of rattle from the camchain of my B1H and was thinking of fitting a APE manual tensioner but now I'm a bit unsure which is best...standard Kawa or what? Can't see what difference fitting another standard cct would achieve as there doesn't seem to be much that can go wrong with it or do they just run out of automatic adjustment?
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yeh they just run out of adjustment,sometimes they stick due to being gummed up with oil,so its worthwhile taking them out for a look,the kawa ones are around £38 if i remember right,the older type from the g1/g2 bikes are supposed to have a stronger spring in them!
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Will be interested to hear how you get on after fitting a new cct.....I'm getting a fair bit of rattle from the camchain of my B1H and was thinking of fitting a APE manual tensioner but now I'm a bit unsure which is best...standard Kawa or what? Can't see what difference fitting another standard cct would achieve as there doesn't seem to be much that can go wrong with it or do they just run out of automatic adjustment?
the ape manual ones are just a upgrade for added protection to our motors to ensure we dont skip a tooth on the timing chain & could drop a valve or warp a head, im waitin on my to come in & will be installin it myself i will keep you guys posted on how it turns out, also the manual cct are alot better from what i heard its alot easier to adjust & only take seconds
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Interesting replies fellas. I've already had the cct out of the engine and it deffo is not gummed up and doesn't look to be on its maximun extension so maybe the spring is weak? Think I'm gonna put my money on the APE
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Interesting replies fellas. I've already had the cct out of the engine and it deffo is not gummed up and doesn't look to be on its maximun extension so maybe the spring is weak? Think I'm gonna put my money on the APE
if you change it out make sure you use the oring gasket off your old one on the new one so you have no leaks
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Old 04-24-2009, 10:57 AM   #12
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installtion went well i even noticed better throttle responce & alittle more pep after the change & motor is back quiet again i highly recomend everybody thats experiencing a bad cct to change to the ape manual one best 50 bucks i spent on the bike in awhile and the installtion doesnt take long at all, just remove tank remove to 8mm screws & the stock cct comes right out, remove the ribber oring off the old one & install on to the new ape manual cct put it back in place where the old one came out & tighten the 2 8mm bolts back down, hand tight the adjuster tight as you can get & start motor up & adjust till all noise go away, its good to have alittle whine but if you experience rattle or ticking then you dont have it tight enough
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I have an APE unit on order, and was going to do a self-install like I did on my GSXR. My tech sent me an email:

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I have some cautionary advice on the CCT install that especially
applies to the 636 and most modern Kawasakis. More often than not - either
intake/exhaust cam will have a tendency to roll and the chain skips time
depending crank/cam positions. It’s often so subtle that you won’t hear it
skip and you’ll never know it jumped time - until you start the engine.
Always best to have valve/pulser covers off for visual confirmation of
proper cam timing.

Review section in service manual on camshaft installation to show proper
alignment of crank/cams/sprockets. Once covers are off - turn crank to #4
TDC as described in manual. Then proceed to remove/replace CCT. You’ll
likely you’ll need a new pulser cover gasket.

It can still skip time even when positioned correctly - happened last week
on that 636 I was building. While, it’s less likely on GSXRs, it can still
happen, especially on exhaust cam. That’s why I always have the covers off
to do a CCT install regardless of make/model engine.
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you can adjust the stock one!!
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you can adjust the stock one!!
How so?
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