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post #16 of 24 Old 05-19-2017, 08:25 AM
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My acquaintance is selling a fully built 2013/2014 something ZX6R for about 6k, including an AMA supersport built motor, quick change wheels and basically many thousands invested into it. Something like that might be too much for what you want but it gives you an idea of what you could be buying for 6-7k. That bike and me are both pretty close to you.
For $6k if street legal, sounds like a deal. I mean, yeah maybe more work than he needs, but if you can get it for that price, why not?

Unless it's track bodywork and no title, then yeah, makes sense.

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For $6k if street legal, sounds like a deal. I mean, yeah maybe more work than he needs, but if you can get it for that price, why not?

Unless it's track bodywork and no title, then yeah, makes sense.
It would be an absolute steal at 6k fully street legal. Converting it back to street is the work I mentioned, though the seller is considering it but then it would be selling for a lot more. It has a title, and race fairings. It's a built AMA MotoAmerica spec 600. The quick change wheel alone is a few grand ... motor work easily in the thousands as well. I am actually selling a full set of OEM fairings...
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I'd check these out:

2014 for $7.5k or offer
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/6135491955.html

Do you love the 07/08? Here's an 09
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/6132418995.html

And finally, an 07 with 17k miles for $4k. Just like we said.
https://sacramento.craigslist.org/mcy/6138111679.html
That 07' looks exactly like what I'm looking for and if I had it arranged into the deal that I would pay to have it taken to a mechanic, before purchase, and have it looked at that would probably be about as good as buying it from a used dealer, yes?

I've definitely changed my mind about not buying of CL considering the amount of money I would be saving.
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That 07' looks exactly like what I'm looking for and if I had it arranged into the deal that I would pay to have it taken to a mechanic, before purchase, and have it looked at that would probably be about as good as buying it from a used dealer, yes?

I've definitely changed my mind about not buying of CL considering the amount of money I would be saving.
Yeah, if you say, 'Let me pay to have a mechanic look over it real quick', that's going to be close to what many dealers will do (quick inspection, but they'd replace anything worn or broken). The difference is, you're not paying dealer profit on top.

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Don't think for a second that a dealership is going to sell you a reliable used bike..... when you buy a bike 'as is', it's no different than a private party sale. Aftermarket warranties are just another way to extract more money from you on the sale.

If you have the cash to buy what you want, a dealership would only ensure that the paperwork is legal. If you have to finance, it's better to see what your own bank or credit union will loan you before you start shopping.

Don't get emotionally invested in a particular make or model... take your time and shop around.
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A used bike is a used bike, end of discussion. The only difference between buying a bike of craigslist and buying a bike at a dealership is you have to deal with a middleman.

The bike was still owned by some human. I'd be more comfortable buying a bike directly from someone because at least then you can get a feel for the place it was kept, maybe how they rode it, have access to the service records, etc.

Plus - you get to avoid a dealership and all of their bullshit.

And as far as price - no. They are out of their goddamn mind asking more than 4 for an 08. You could EASILY get a 13+ for 6500, likely with less miles.

Plus - 18k miles on a used bike is a lot without knowing its history. Everything on that bike will have to be serviced unless you KNOW it's been done.



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A good place to look for used bikes is actually on sanctioned racing organization forums, e.g. WERA.
The bikes have been ridden hard, but they're designed for that and there's an extremely high likelihood they've been well taken care of .... plus there's probably a bunch of cool shit already installed
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That 07' looks exactly like what I'm looking for and if I had it arranged into the deal that I would pay to have it taken to a mechanic, before purchase, and have it looked at that would probably be about as good as buying it from a used dealer, yes?

I've definitely changed my mind about not buying of CL considering the amount of money I would be saving.

Call the seller in advance and ask who has serviced the bike - what dealer or independent mechanic. It really is the rare person who has never had their bike in some sort of shop.

Yes, there a number of folks on the board who have done complete 'tear down/build ups, but as I indicated, they are the minority. I do the vast majority of work on my '15 Zed, but every once in awhile, I need to take it to someone who has more skill/the unusual specific tool. And then it's a case of time vs money vs skill, vs will I ever use that very expensive special tool again?

And this long route leads back to the point: if someone else has laid hands on it, they could give you an impartial assessment of the bike's mechanical state. Also, why is the seller putting the bike up for sale? Take this last Q w/a healthy dose of salt. Chances are their answer will be 50%+ B.S.

Closely check out "consumables", things like tires, chains & sprockets, etc. If they don't maintain the little stuff, they sure as hell are not taking care of the big stuff. Again, don't be too hesitant to walk away.

Happy hunting, and good luck.

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OP,

Remember, a dealership is nothing more than the business of someone who is (really, really) good at buying and selling stuff. That does not imply they are going to cut you a good deal; in fact most likely it means the opposite of that. This is a game of playing on your emotions and ignorance.

There is much to be said for supporting the local businesses that make it possible for me to ride -- that does not mean I need to give them a kidney to do so.

The biggest benefit of dealing with a business vs. a private party is there is at least some recourse if things don't go the way you want them to. The old saying that 'you can't fight city hall' does apply however.... businesses are much more influential in government than private citizens.

Working with a private individual who may be less well informed on what the market price of an item is, may lead to a good deal. The motivations of the seller are their own demon, for whatever reason.

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